Monday, March 8, 2010

Stupid investors!

If you think I've been whinging about investors paying too much for property because I am too cheap to pay market price, here's a prime example for you.

About a month ago, a house went on the market we were very interested in. Decent sized block, good sized house (although the bedrooms seemed quite small, for some reason - maybe an illusion). It wasn't perfect (no room for a walk in robe), and it needed a lot of updating. The owners hadn't done anything to the place since it was built in the late 70s. For instance, there was a bar area off the kitchen which had walls completely covered in cork tiles! Anyway, we thought it had potential. The real estate was looking for offers around the high 4s/low 5s.

We went to view the property and were going to put in an offer, but then the agent told us the owners wanted it to go to auction. It was a deceased estate, and I guess they wanted to see exactly how much they could get for it. The agent organised a building & pest, which showed some termite and borer damage (so again, definitely not a perfect property).

The auction was on Saturday. The agent had still been predicting high 4s/low 5s. Some moron ended up paying $700,000 for it. The funniest thing about that is, he obviously hasn't done his homework. He is apparently a builder and was looking at subdividing the block and building another house on it. I checked with the Council when we were first looking at, and found out it was in Res A zoning, and they wouldn't allow any new structures to be built on the land (well, unless the house was subject to some kind of catastrophe and it was a necessity - fire, etc). So he's just paid $200,000 too much for a piece of land he can't do anything with. Well, not until they change the zoning, anyway. The land itself was valued in the high 3s. So he's just paid more than $300k for a house that wouldn't cost more than $200k to build brand new. The house as it was was definitely not worth more than about $100k.

Still, that just shows you what's going on. Houses are listed for high 4s/low 5s, and so we go to look at them. We put in very reasonable offers (usually at the list price - we're not the sort to play the game where you offer $50,000 less than they're asking), and we still get outbid. There are moronic investors out there who don't really care what they pay for the property. If it's listed at $500,000, they'll put in $550,000 just to make sure they get it. This is infuriating, not only because we're getting outbid every time, but also because it artificially inflates the prices of all the houses for sale. An agent who lists a 3 bedroom in Wavell Heights for $525k, and gets an offer of $575k for it automatically goes back to their other listings for similar houses in the same area and raises the prices of them, knowing they'll get offers at the higher level.

It's outrageous. It makes me so angry. I just wish those selfish investors would stop paying more for properties than they're worth! I know we'll end up buying something eventually, but I really hope the arse falls out of the market and all those greedy bastards are left with multiple properties they paid too much for and they all make losses.

8 comments:

Perseus said...

When Andromeda 3.0 and I were together, we ran into the same problems.

So, we ended up buying a block of land and engaging an architect. Yeah, it adds probably 18 months to 2 years on to everything, but at least you get the house you want / can afford.

Hell, I even had slippery slide to get you down from the mezzanine incorporated into the design. The architect didn't blink! I also wanted a bookshelf that spun around revealing a secret room, but it was too expensive.

The fact we split up before the house was built is neither here nor there.

Angelina said...

That's not really an option for us, because blocks of land in the area we're looking at are already in the 400s, and any house we built would be about $150k to $200k. Our budget is low 500s.

And yeah, we could move further out, but we don't want to. It's a lifestyle choice. Although, having said that, if it comes to it that we're still looking 6 months from now, moving further out will become a necessity, I think.

Angelina said...

Also, bookshelf-secret-room is awesome! And I love the slippery slide idea!

What happened to the house? Did it get finished and then sold?

Giggleworthy said...

I'm terribly upset that Said hasn't dropped by with some clear points as to why this is happening to you Ange.

Plus I'm bored. What am I supposed to do for entertainment now!? /sigh

Giggleworthy said...

Slippery slide? WIN
Secret bookshelf hidden room? WIN

Pers, that sounds like the most awesome house EVER!

Angelina said...

I know. I'm disappointed Said hasn't come back. And after all the troll baits we laid down in the last comment section!

Giggleworthy said...

Hmmm... maybe we left too much bait around and it either a) exploded or b) didn't know where to start?

Damnit.

Maybe you should have pretended to get all emo and upset, that might have reeled Said in and then we could have pounced.

We might have jumped the gun.

/bitter sigh

Perseus said...

The house was never built. When I left her (well, escaped) I took nothing but my photo albums, my favourite coffee table and the cat with me. I signed the block over to her, preferring to lose my $50,000 share/input rather than have to talk to her ever again.

She sold the property not long after and now lives in Tasmania.

The architect was spewing. He really wanted to do the slippery slide. The idea was to have a spiral staircase to walk up to the mazzanine, then the slide would also spiral, inversely, around the starircase... if you know what I mean. So it formed a helix.